But Cindy could feel California clients and BCs culture were becoming more open and it felt like the right time to be fully herself at work. Despite his growing rap sheet, Hansen escaped notice when Anchorage women soon began to disappear. It had never crossed her mind. I just wanted a chance to work with Robert Rodriguez. Being able to take those and meditate on them myself and make her memories my own memories put me in the right head space. We must step back and reflect to see new opportunities for growth. Her ability to accurately describe every detail of her ordeal was crucial to establishing her credibility as a witness. View the profiles of professionals named "Cindy Paulson" on LinkedIn. Learn how your comment data is processed. CINDY: It was a big revolver gun, like a police gun. We are all the same. This is a very intense film. Im sorry I dont remember the right dates and so forth. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. We must find our commonalities through sharing our experiences, spreading awareness, and caring for one another. Robert claimed that the teen was trying to blackmail him; he convinced a buddy to give him an alibi, and that was that. The date on her grave marker is April 24, 1984, one day off the date the body was found. Black or brown? (pause) When did you first see this man, Cindy? In order to keep their witness close, the state trooper and his wife befriended the young survivor, then Glenn reached out to the FBI. (Source: Anchorage Police Department) Cindy Paulson was a 17-year-old dancer and sex worker living in Anchorage with her mother. But that's not the only discrepancy, another Hansen victim, DeLynn Frey, reportedly also was found near the same lake on the same day, but Mr Hoage said Frey was found near another lake in 1985. CINDY: Its blue with a big ol picture window and the whole house is If you drive down Old Harbor Road, the windows on the right side and the garage is to the left. Robert Hansen is probably the most prolific serial in recent Alaskan history. FLOTHE: What kind of boots? My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. Over the last 30 years, Cindy has facilitated more than 100 successful workshops/work sessions, including a dozen all-day . He invited me afterwards to go to dinner with him and a couple of his friends because he felt so bad about putting me through that. FLOTHE: You saw a bunch of money in his wallet? CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. (pause) I chatted there with her a little bit and, uh, made an agreement with her that I was going to see her sometime. So it was nice to kind of test my own mental and physical strength. He had rolled the window down and I opened the door and I sat down and I talked to him. Flothe (Sep 27, 1983) Cindy Paulson talks about Robert Hansen CINDY: (Inaudible) gave the gentleman my telephone number and asked him to call me. After he was convicted of committing murder, Darla finally let go of her marriage; she promptly divorced her husband, then she and the kids moved back to Arkansas to be with family. 10 Underrated Thrillers That Are Destined To Become Cult Classics, 10 Best Movies Trilogies Ranked From 'Spider-Man' to 'The Lord of the Rings', This Spielberg Movie Only Made a $1 Box Office Profit. CINDY: Yeah, but then again one seat looks the same. And hes about five six, weighs about 170 pounds. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) FLOTHE: Would you draw me a diagram of the house and Ill turn the tape off just for a minute while youre doing that. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. Im not correct on the times, OK? See how my sights are painted with an orange Glenn Flothe. Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. (pause) And that he had to work and he couldnt do it then. Normally, people try avoiding that. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. Roberts first kill is either believed to have occurred in 1971, 1972, or 1973. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. I said, no, we can go to my place. He said, no, he didnt want to. FLOTHE: An older car. What Cindy Paulson escaped is mind-numbing. FLOTHE: OK. And when he pulled up, did you just go get in the car, or did you talk to him Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. And, um, he took me to his house on Old Harbor Road in Muldoon. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. FLOTHE: And when did you hear from him again? He said cause he used to work on the slopes and that he would come down and spend money for a girl and go to her room for ten or fifteen minutes. Cause this motherfucker wasnt getting away with it. The infamous Special Agent John Douglas took a look at the case, and he informed the trooper that his perpetrator would likely have a stutter! Youve taken on some very interesting, challenging roles lately in different genres like this film and also Gimme Shelter. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. My left wrist, right there He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. Hansen said she had a knife in her purse. Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. There, he held her captive and proceeded to rape and torture her. He was really sweet. She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. She Gets rescued By an patrol Officer. Often the family of these killers catch a ton of hell from the public, how could they possibly share their lives with a monster and not know it? 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All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and theres no telling how much longer he wouldve lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of 83. FLOTHE: What was he driving then, Sunday night? FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. Was it important for you to give the victims a voice in this film? Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on CINDY: Yep. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? Together they entertained colleagues at their home. Cindy . No comments have so far been submitted. Though Cindy was able to describe her attacker and his home in great detail, it didnt make any difference. Cindy Paulson is Portrayed by Vanessa Hudgens In The Film 17 Year Old Cindy Paulson is handcuffed and screaming for help. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. I didnt know, there was, uh I I I couldnt see her that night cause it was during the week and Im running my bakery and I start there at 1:00 in the morning and, uh, she give me a phone number there for her at one of the motels. CINDY: The Buick car, inside the garage. CINDY: Well, I didnt. And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. Eventually Robert did admit to having raped dozens, but would only confess to the murder of 17; he even lead police to the shallow graves of twelve more corpses. Can you tell us how that all came about? Let's get it straight: "My wife befriended Cindy for months at all hours of the night and morning without ever meeting her until two days before she was to testify against Hansen. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. Im sorry that these photos needed to be included, but we really cant discuss this particular serial killer without speaking of hunting. Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. Im not going to help you do that, all right? Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? Ever since I was young, I wanted to be in a role where I could play a prostitute or a drug addict, because its nice to be able to portray someone who is so far from you, which I love. Robert Christian Hansen (the Butcher Baker) and the Delphi Murde CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. "He was mild-mannered Bob the Baker, and as I'm looking at him, all of sudden he transformed. Glenn Flothe, AST. And then we hear about the same meet up from Cindy Paulsons perspective, documented in her trooper interview with Sgt. Survivor Cindy, who is a married mother of three today. All rights reserved. FLOTHE: OK. Where were you at when you saw him on a Friday? Have you heard anything about a sequel to Journey 2 The Mysterious Island? And I really, really If there was any chance of me getting away, he wasnt getting away with it. FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? I think hes such an incredible filmmaker. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. FLOTHE: And then he contacted you on Saturday. I just want to do everything. Hansen served time briefly at Lemon Creek Correctional Center in Juneau until authorities found escape plans stashed among his belongings and sent him to Seward, officials said at the time. FLOTHE: I have its kind of a picture book with different types of guns in it, OK. Would you take a look through that picture book and see if you see a gun that might be similar to the one that this man had? In 2007 his multi-billion payoff shorting the overheated U.S. housing market made him a global industry superstar. She gave me an extremely solid foundation and told me her earliest memories that she had until where she is to this day. ): And we pulled over to the side, by the side of the house, and I proceeded to give him a blowjob. CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: Which photograph is that? Hansen couldn't or wouldn't help identify her. Thats what it takes for teams to bring their best selves to work every day.. FLOTHE: OK. Heres a link: https://www.patreon.com/Morbidnmacabre. A turning point came in 1983, when a teenage prostitute named Cindy Paulson ran into a Fifth Avenue motel in handcuffs, saying that Hansen had imprisoned her at his home, raped her and put her on his plane for a one-way ride. And Ill give you one guess as to who fit the bill perfectly! And so I gave him my telephone number And he was going To be frank, honest, I was asking him for change for a cigarette machine. As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. How did you approach your portrayal of Cindy? CINDY: Like a convertible (inaudible), 1978 Buick Century 4-Door Sedan (This photo is NOT Hansens Buick, but it is similar). In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. What about Gimme Shelter which is completed? FLOTHE: Like a station wagon? But aside from that, he just let me play and take it wherever I wanted. Hudgens: It was definitely the rape scene because we recreated that room to a T. I mean, everything that I was seeing, the emotions that I was feeling, were the exact same things that these young victims had gone through as well, and it was crazy living that, even though its make believe. And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. CINDY: Yep. Couple find note in chimney that reveals their 290,000 house was 100 times cheaper 50 years ago. Hansen later told investigators that his first kill involved a woman he assumed to be a topless dancer or prostitute. He was also an avid hunter. Uh, the first time I seen CINDY PAULSON was about a block west of, I think its a 76 station on the corner there of Gambell and 5th. (laughs) Its my monster of sorts. And I said, Fine, no problem.. CINDY: It was a really dark color. The go-to source for comic book and superhero movie fans. But it would be simple psychopaths are master manipulators and first class liars. For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). CINDY: Number five. "He's one of those kind of guys that you kind of hope every breath he takes in his life, there's some pain associated with it, because he caused such pain," Rothschild said. Were the lights on or off? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. So in 1939 Robert was born in Estherville, Iowa to an immigrant father. I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. Did he give you a sense of what he wanted and then get out of the way and let you follow your instincts as an actor? After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. Hansen confessed to authorities that he had killed 17. Email khopkins@adn.com. How fitting! "Good riddance to him.". Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. I just had no idea what it would be like for me to be fully authentic at work.. CINDY: Cause they told me, the police officers had told me when we went to the hospital. CINDY: (interrupting) It was an older car. After we get in the garage we gotta go up these stairs. My dream is to purchasing what I need to get that YouTube/patreon off the ground. On his terms. Like a station wagon. What did you learn from them? I need a cheap laptop, microphones, etc. Vanessa Hudgens turns in a surprisingly raw and emotionally powerful performance in Scott Walkers suspenseful thriller, The Frozen Ground, as 17-year-old street hooker Cindy Paulson, one of the few victims that managed to escape Alaskas most notorious serial killer, Robert Hansen (John Cusack). Hudgens: Oh my gosh, Nic is the most professional actor Ive ever worked with and that I probably will ever work with. CINDY: Some times they were. Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? A one-stop-shop for all things video games. FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than She was hysterical, half-clothed, and had an unbelievable story of survival to tell. I absolutely adore him. The only thing which he ever seemed to truly succeed in, the one thing which others commended him for, were his exceptional hunting skills. Maybe they were different frames. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. Glenn Flothe, AST. FLOTHE: How did you know this? FLOTHE: Make sure you look through the whole book before you decide. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. CINDY: (interrupting) Well, I went over there cause at first I didnt recognize him. CINDY: Uh huh. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. And he suggested that we could go to his place. FLOTHE: Now you mentioned this airplane seat. Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. On June 13, 1983, Cindy Paulson was kidnapped and raped, her life threatened by Robert Hansen. A woman accused Hansen of rape in 1971, even as he awaited trial in a separate incident for following a stranger to her Spenard home and trying to kidnap her at gunpoint, according to Anchorage Daily News reports at the time. When it was time for Hansen to go to prison, his plea agreement included a request, according to accounts at the time: He would do his time outside Alaska. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Copyright 2023 Butcher Baker Primer WordPress theme by. Big ol like caribou and goats heads, big ones stuffed everywhere. How do you feel about the final film now that youve seen it? CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. With his death, the full extent of Hansen's deeds, including the true number of his victims, the location of their bodies and the identities of all the women he kidnapped, raped and sometimes hunted like wild game before murdering might never be known. Several months later, police with search warrants went through Hansen's home, finding enough evidence to eventually charge him with four murders. FLOTHE: Did you have conversation, then, with him on Friday? CINDY: The same person. Profiling is really an incredible science, its amazing how even the littlest details about a killer can be told by their crimes. While there does not seem to be a singular traumatic event in Roberts childhood which we can pinpoint, it appears that hed had a really difficult time in most aspects of his life as a kid and even as an adult he just couldnt (or wouldnt) let it go. FLOTHE: Six in the evening? FLOTHE: Did he seem pretty sincere about wanting to get with you? It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. CINDY: OK. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. The woman, who was believed to in her late teens was found on April 25, 1984, near Horseshoe Lake. Uh, FR: Would it have been during the time when your wife and children were out of. As of 5:30 Saturday afternoon theres a new article available. CINDY: Yep. So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. FLOTHE: Do you feel that he was going to hurt you? In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. And he was very kind and giving as an actor, as well as John. It was plain. Eventually his buddys conscience got the better of him, and he confessed his crimes to the police; for his role, Robert was sentenced to three years incarceration. 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