Using new brass, like Lapua brass, when reloading allows you complete control over the finished cartridge. SAUM shows that 56.0 grains of IMR 4350 powder will drive their 140 grain bullets to a MV of 2943 fps, and 60.0 grains of IMR 4350 is good for a MV of 3146 fps. You must log in or register to reply here. Will be running as a long action so no worries about magazine issues. Registration on or use of this site constitutes acceptance of our Terms of Service. Here, the hardness is nearly twice that of around the neck. I made the same decision not long ago and went 7mm RM, although barrel life was a consideration for me, which it probably wouldn't be on a strictly hunting rig. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data 120 Grain 140 Grain 150 Grain 160 Grain 168 Grain 175 Grain 185 Grain PRIVACY USE ORDER PROCESSING SERVICE & RETURNS Copyright 2023 NOSLER INC. I feel I could easily shoot 180s at the same speed, and the 190s close to it. The U.S.A. hasnt fully adopted the metric system, but our shooters and hunters have. Looking at going with the 7mag or 28 nosler. Nosler AccuBond Long Range. Which one would you choose and why? I've mostly shot 180 Berger's and its been really accurate. This rings home with me. During processing the large, soft grains are broken down into smaller ones, which makes for a harder material. The load is easy on brass and accuracy is excellent, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 280 Remington Ackley Improved 40-Degree, Nosler Custom Reloading Brass 7mm Remington Short Action Ultra Mag Box. I just did a 7mm build too. With RL26 I stuck a case in the chamber @ 3150fps. This friction-free bullet jump allows it to break inertia more easily. 224 Valkyrie. ADG 7mm Rem Ultra Mag Brass. Which action are you using and what barrel length? Pretty sure the can thing is a complete game changer on optimal barrel length. High-velocity cartridges are high velocity for a reason. We have killed over a half dozen deer over 850 yards with the 195 berger so i know it performs well on game (never lost a deer with the 195 even with one having poor shot placement). Im going to run the 7 Saum Im thinking. After all the smoke and toasted barrels cleared, I came to my own conclusion that the 7-300 win mag was the winner when all aspects are considered. Great availability of components and above all a barrel that will last 1500+ when used like a hunting rifle and cared for. You must log in or register to reply here. To help you understand the flow of energy, check out the chart-. My hunting partner just bought a CA Ridgeline TI in 6.5PRC. 180-gr. Or just step up to the 7 SAUM and run 180s if you want more weight. My thinking was that good ol' 7mm RM. runs at 2940 fps and the .280 AI runs at 2850 fps). Check out the 10 mph right-angle wind deflection at 400 yards: just 7.82 inches. However, if youre hoping to win a target shooting contest at 600 yards, the 3 inches less wind deflection and 4 inches less drop from the PRC give you a leg up. Clearly Hornady wasnt trying to break any speed records with the 7 PRC. And with RL33 hes getting 3140 fps (pretty easily), using Retumbo (for it's temp stability) drops it about 75 fps. Why not back the 28 off and run h1000 or retumbo and cruise along at the same velocity? Following since I want to do the exact same thing. How bout building a 280AI. Smaller-framed or young shooters generally consider the cartridge as having high recoil, but its recoil is manageable for experienced large-framed shooters to be able to shoot it regularly. #1 Postby Marty Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:38 am. 7mm RM, 2,900 fps from 24 bl. Assuming that would be as illogical as assuming the 30-06 Springfield, 308 Winchester, and 223 Remington are strictly military cartridges. (Aim for center and bullet will not rise more than 5 inches nor fall more than 5 inches within the MPBR. My conclusion: if you already own any 7mm magnum for hunting, (7mm WSM, 7mm SAUM, 7mm RM, 7mm LRM, 7mm STW, 7mm Wby. Buy Now. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. Recoil with a brake should be not bad at all even with the light rifle. But to really appreciate this, lets run a trajectory chart out to some crazy ranges. ADG 300 . To get this Hornady went to its usual bag of tricks: The new, updated Remington M700 standard length action rifles handled the Hornady 7mm PRC 180-gr. Mag. The completed case holds 90 grains of water with our 175-grain boattail spire point bullet seated. The first question you have to ask when designing a new cartridge is, "WHY?" The 7LRM (Long Range Magnum) is a non-belted case that has the same overall length as the 7mm Rem Mag with a standard magnum case head. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr . The .28 Nosler of 2015 was their solution. Your results may vary. By 1,000 yards the PRC has nearly a 2-foot drop advantage and 14-inch windage advantage. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . All Rights Reserved. 280AI vs 7 SAUM: two peas in a pod. Ive got the same dilemma. This just-released (October 26, 2022) cartridge has the potential to become the 7mm Remington Magnum of the 21st century. Absolutely nothing special or difficult about reloading belted cases. Also note that some guys are reporting pressure issues at speeds other are reporting work with the 28. Use a 1:8 twist and the 7RM will be no slouch. John Whiddons dies are the nicest Ive ever used. Many find them, like the 280ai, to be a great compromise between ballistics and recoil. You obviously reload so that may not be an issue. The lighter, shorter 7mm bullets are preferred in these short case magnums. Case has a good balance of capacity for the bullets I tested (180'd and 195's) Plenty of usable powder options. Newer calibers tend to fade quickly these days. include more options in rifles and ammo, more accessible and less expensive ammo, less recoil, a potentially shorter, handier, lighter rifle, and longer barrel life. The .28 Nosler and 7mm RUM push the same bulletsjust faster. But, were I young and tough and starting from scratch, I might be lured into the .28 Nosler. Any opinions, thoughts, or experiences with either? It may not display this or other websites correctly. The belt has never been an issue for me. ADG 300 PRC Brass. Could run the sendero lite or a bartlein magnum sporter I bet Saum simply because its a 7 and you said elk. The sample Hornady 180-gr. In 1962 the 7mm Rem. 7mm Rem Short Action Ultra Magnum Load Data. Hodgdon reloading data for the 7mm WSM shows that the 140 grain Nosler Partition spitzer bullet can be driven to a MV of 2979 fps in front of 58.0 grains of H4350 powder. Mag. Reloading the 28 is also not inexpensive. The 7max performance that Rich advertises is somewhat inflated and HOT loadings. Im using Winchester brass, and it's showing no signs of wear after 8 or 9 reloads. I also see the counter that belted cases are reloaded just like non belted and it is a non issue. Handloaders can find .284" bullets (the diameter that all 7mm cartridges digest) as light as 100 grains, perfect for pasture rodents, coyotes, and even deer. Creedmoor Sports $ 116.95 . Mag. Piecing together a rifle build but havent settled on what I want to chamber it in. Retumbo. Lets compare three cartridges that do that; the old 7mm Rem. These drawings will be incorporated during the next revision of the relevant SAAMI Standard. Just picked up a tikka for a donor build for a lightweight 6.5 PRC or 7mm SAUM. But with laser rangefinders one can easily compensate for the slightly greater drop of the 7mm Rem. I wish there was more 7SAUM options, I feel there's a gap in the market. It may not display this or other websites correctly. And more recoil. I did 7remmag. 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And at sensible hunting distances even a basic MPBR hunter should have find more than 90 percent of his shooting opportunities covered by the Rem Mag. #7mm #longrangeshooting #extremelongrange Mag. I love 7mm, just wish it would modernize a bit. Another indicates 74-grains of Hodgdon 870 will churn up 2,954 fps. Mag. Few, if any, cartridges shoot as flat and hit as hard at distance as the 7mm Weatherby. IMR 4350 was the most accurate powder tested. It went on to prove itself as a grand all-round big game cartridge, becoming the most popular, most recognized 7mm magnum around the world. Creedmoor Sports $ 119.95 . For you guys that have had both with do you prefer. Reloder 33, 7mm RUM 3,150 fps from 26 bl. Full-magnum action long. And thats part of the reason 7mms are so popular. The 7mm shoots .284-inch diameter bullets through bores .28-inch across, but only two use this Imperial measuring system in their titles: .280 Remington and .284 Winchester, both excellent but underrated standard velocity cartridges. without laser assistance. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7mm or 0.284" while the 300 PRC fires the . That was the 7x57mm re-branded for the non-metric British Rigby rifle. Now I am waffling between the 6.5x284 Norma and the 300 PRC. This is not a rifle you want to weave through dog-hair timber. Recoil of a 9# Rem. Short, light barrels just dont do justice to high temperature, high velocity, high pressure, overbore magnum cartridges. I used to shoot 154gr hornady interbonds at 3750 and latest was not to push over 3400. It made sense for me. Specifically, the larger diameter .284 bullets used by those 7mm cartridges have about 5% more frontal surface area (also known as cross sectional area) than the .277 bullets used by the 6.8 Western (.0633 vs .0603 square inches). Ron Spomer The 7mm advantage comes from relatively high BC (ballistic coefficient) bullets in popular weights commonly used for hunting horned and antlered game. Im sure Remington engineers started with the .300 H&H case, but it was itself a modification of the .375, so same difference. Som en stor omfattende nettbutikk er hjemsol forpliktet til hjelpe deg med skape et stt liv med vre utskte produkter. This compromise should account for the slower muzzle velocities many rifles produce with factory loads and safe handloads. YMMV . ADG makes 28 nosler brass for a great option. If you go with a hot 7mm, get one with a fairly heavy barrel contour. ADG 6.5 SAUM Brass. ELD-Match, Noslers 185-gr. Anyone looking for really good dies call Whiddon and have them made. Categories I also use and like my .284 Win on a long action. Published Nov 25, 2019 7:53 PM EST. The Hodgdon technicians used Winchester cases and primers to develop their loads, and they were chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. The factory offerings for ammo hold no weight with me, but that probably plays a role in many people's decisions. Were I seeking the absolute top-end, extreme-range performance and willing to carry a 28 inches of barrel, Id look harder at the RUM. I was looking at a 7-300 win, 7-300NM, and a few others. Vintersalg: Opptil 60 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr They are all throwing the same bullets more than hard and fast enough for anything. Its likely to be as popular in the 21st century as the Rem Mag was in the 20th. burning 61 grains Reloder 22, 28 Nosler, 3,200 fps from 26 bl., 88-grs. Jan 1, 2018 2,001 4,006 51 Muscle Shoals, Alabama. It is intended for long-range shooting due to its ability to utilize high BC bullets, and is also uniquely suited for hunting large animals such as elk. We're doing break in on it tomorrow. Id be set for all North American game plus African plains game right up to 1,800-pound eland. Unless you are shooting the 180's at long range, the 7 Rem is enough gun. ADG 7 SAUM Brass. I have both the 300 and 7mm SAUM, the 300 is on a model 7 action and the 7mm a standard 700SA. Mag. Some of these new cartridges are appealing, I dont think Ill change however. Not to concerned about the barrel life, you cant expect Ferrari performance and get Prius fuel mileage haha theres always a trade off, I think a mild load in a 28 might be the best of both worlds. But if your wanting the long action anyway, I'd go with the 280ai. I go back and forth in my head 1000 times on choices, then I will decide on what I know that I want, then I'll see something else and go back to the drawing board. at the muzzle. from all the adds for the nosler 28, they have the data on the 7 rum dumber down to make them look better. While the 7 Rem Mag has been built on everything from 1:8 twist to 1:10, most spin 1:9. The extra heat required to reach hyper speed eats away at barrel throats rather quickly. Consider that already own a 270 Win with a 22" barrel. for my brand of hunting. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I wouldn't do either in a 24" , I would definitely go 26" at a minimum. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. Like I said, I'm biased for the 7RM. JavaScript is disabled. Worth considering. Definitely go 26" on the barrel. Mag., the new .28 Nosler, and the over-the-top 7mm RUMa shoot-off to find the best, By Fill this with 88 grains of slow burning Reloder 33 powder and, according to the Nosler Reloading Guide 8, you should get 3,211 fps from a 26-inch barrel. I suspect the Sherman cases are all running between 70-80k psi on the upper end. Carefully spaced shots (dont overheat the barrel) always extend life, as does each shooters accuracy demands. A major part of that depends on rifling twist. Id suggest a similar plan. This is probably too high for real world hunting, but well use it as a standard here for cartridge-to-cartridge comparison consistency.). Mag. Everyone who knows what they're doing headspaces off of the shoulder anyways, and you should not be doing load development with virgin cases, you want to fire form them first so the belt is a moot point. Thanks. For perspective, this is 75 fps faster than most 175-gr. Now waiting on ADG to do another run of 7 SAUM brass. and instead recommends the 30-28 nosler, 300 norma and improved, and 300 PRC stating that each has 75% less throat erosion than the 28 nosler and with essentially identical ballistics. RDF, or Bergers 190-gr. We ain't raisen no yuppy girls! You can drive 10 mph and get thousands and thousands more miles out of your tires, but wouldnt you rather drive highway speed? 28 Nosler brass can be a pain to find, same goes for the ammo. In older reloading books for the 7 rum is its hauling a$$ compared current data. Thats fast enough to handle most 175-gr. Long action lone peak. Hey guys, so Ive kind of decided to give one of these a try in my Desert Tech SRS. factory 7mm Rem. Like all 7mms, they can fire bullets as light as 100-grains and as heavy as 180-grains. Cartridge: 7 RUM. I like off the shelf ammo and its 7 mag, 28 Nosler, 7mm-08 and the 280. Like most of our early magnums, this is based on the belted .375 H&H Magnum case. The structure of the material reveals the hardness. The 28 is not going to be but about 25-50 FPS faster and it makes little difference. I like the 6.5 PRC because I think ammo/brass will have more staying power where the 7mm SAUM is all but obsolete (don't stone me for that). I think the 7saum is here to stay. In order to obtain that performance from a .30 caliber, I would need to jump into the .300 Win. Meanwhile, over in Africa a Scottish commercial ivory hunter named Bell was making the little 7x57mm famous as a BIG big game round by dropping some 800 elephants with it. Given the same basic form and muzzle velocity (MV), a 180-grain, .284 bullet will fly flatter, drift less, and retain more energy downrange than a 180-grain .308 bullet . The 7 PRC should be built on 1:8 or 1:7.5 twist barrels to stabilize all these. Clearly the 7mm Rem. Arbeidstid: 08.00-16.00mandag til fredagVi vil svare deg innen 48-72 timer. 7mm mag has stood the test of time. Elk, moose, kudu and similar large . Does a great job on Elk or pig. You go long. | My 28 will not blow the door of the 7 MAX which is why I did not rechamber a 28, I want more accurate load life and no chasing lands around for only a little gain on the very end of trajectory. I have a 6.5 saum that is my go to long range coues rifle and it is my favorite rifle but not my first choice for an elk cartridge. I have both chambered up on the same rifle, the 28 is about cooked so spun up a 7 MAX and maybe in a month I'll get time to pull the trigger more on it, fire forming and case prep amounts to chamfer, add primer, powder and bullet to ADG 7 MAX brass and pull the trigger. Never saw the need for the added horse power of the 7 STW so I sold it and stayed with the 7 mm Rem Mag. As the .30-06 Springfield has a .473 case head and uses the .470 +/- bolt face, any cartridges list on the above two bolt face diameter and action length database charts above, that also use the .470 +/- bolt face, and have a COAL of 3.34 or shorter, will work with .30-06 actions. Remington claims that the ballistics of the 7mm SAUM equal those of the popular 7mm Rem. The 7mm has a longer barrel and is heavier. Reloading data published in the fifth edition of the Nosler Reloading Guide for the 7mm Rem. You are using an out of date browser. Just $1 per month , The old 7mm Rem. Just to add another fly in the ointment, but another 7mm to consider, is the 7mm Blaser Mag. Those are some impressive numbers. Moose by the dozens have fallen to the 7mm Rem. And heres the same 175-gr. Compared to the ballistics of the new Rem. The best part is that the recoil is super easy compared to a 300. Less well known in the U.S. (but more ballistically advanced) was the 7mm Weatherby Magnum from the early 1940s. So Im going through this same thing Are you wanting to run a shorter barrel? Medium slow burning rifle powders are most appropriate for both of these cartridges. Bonus benefits with the 7mm Rem. JavaScript is disabled. Hornady 7mm PRC overall length matches that of the 30-06 and 270 Win., so it fits standard length actions. Going super light though might make the 280 ai another good choice. Both cartridges were designed to work through short action rifles. Had same dilemma, went with 7RM because even during the great Obama ammo shortage you could always find 7RM ammo. Has 260 rounds on it so its fully sped up. Just cant decide what billets and powder to run. No more than 7-pounds finished and field ready. Brass 1 - 12 of 73 Products Sort By Position 220 Swift Premium Brass (50ct) $108.95 6.5mm PRC Bulk Unprepped Brass (100ct) Out of stock $135.49 6.5mm PRC Premium Brass (50ct) Out of stock $118.95 27 Nosler Premium Brass (25ct) Thoughts on a 22 or 23 Barrel in 7mm Rem Mag? The 180 Berger VLD was my choice for terminal performance. This will be a custom built hunting rifle(deer and elk) and will need to be carried long distances. Just 5 inches of drop at 400 yards and 6.8 inches of wind deflection. Mine has a 30 Rock Creek. Said barrels will also be throated long enough for seating such bullets above the powder reservoir. .280 AI hands-down. Have a 6.5 PRC and currently building a 7 SAUM. Just FYI before going 7-330NM, check out Long Range Hunting, there is a real long thread on there about the 28 Nosler with the 195 Bergers, just google it. Trustpilot. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. 7 RUM Choose an option 6.5 PRC 6.5 SAUM 7 SAUM 7 REM MAG 7 RUM 28 NOSLER 300 WIN MAG 300 NORMA MAG 300 PRC 300 RUM 30 NOSLER 338 LAPUA 338 RUM 338 EDGE 300 WSM 375 RUM 7 REM MAG BRIGHT 338 RUM BRIGHT 30 NOSLER BRIGHT. But they didnt shorten anything. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Buy Now. I have one on a 26" proof barrel. You are using an out of date browser. with either the Berger 215- or 230-grain Hybrid and push them at maximum pressures. 8tw 195 or maybe the new 190 atips. Buy Now. At SAAMI specs you really hinder the performance, need a little extra freebore to seat the bullets out further. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. needing 1.3 mils for a 10 mph full value wind. With a 160 grain bullet the Winchester figures are 2990 fps and 3176 ft. lbs. bullets far, far downrange with minimal wind deflection and maximal accuracy. It will never be as popular as a 6.5PRC or 28nosler, but it has a purpose. and a high B.C. bullet wins the wind deflection category. My vote would be for the 7 saum. for their 7mm SAUM with a 140 grain bullet. ADG 300 Rem Ultra Mag Brass. All rights reserved. He's loading the 195's to something like 3.730" COAL, well past SAAMI specs. Just have the barrel throated so you can load those big pills way out there, to make room for more powder. Dies, brass etc are way easier to find for the PRC. 8.7 twist 5R and 180 JLKs couldnt consistently make it to 100 past 3Kfps. His bolt-action rifle was chambered for the confusing .275 Rigby. The shot prior a half grain less powder had minimal pressure signs. Minuteman. Despite all this powder volume, reloading guides all indicate the 7mm RUM tops out at around 3,150 fps with a 26-inch barrel, slightly slower than the .28 Nosler. 7mm brass is simple to find and the caliber is an absolute hammer on deer/elk. Fr pske salg: Opptil 50 % rabatt + Gratis frakt over 499 kr Note: A full length article about the 7mm WSM and 7mm Rem. Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. &mm PRC. Running 8twist Proof 168s run flat, 5.2mils the other morning at 912y. Ryan Pierce is a gunsmith, Piercison Rifles, and he is the first person I saw that was playing with the extra freebore. For the best experience on our site, be sure to turn on Javascript in your browser. He is having adg make brass for him, its head stamped and the neck diameter and length are correct for his design, will still need to be fire formed. Copyright 2004, 2013 by Chuck Hawks. Retained mass helps maintain momentum. Full Member. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. I was tired of lugging the heavy, long, and heavy recoiling 30s around, but wanted more punch than my lighter 6.5CM. That's what I would do unless you have to have something much faster. 7mm SAUM vs 7mm Rem Mag | Full Comparison 24,889 views Sep 12, 2020 306 Dislike Share Save GunFather Precision 6.7K subscribers To answer a question I regularly get asked here is a full. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. yea Im leaning more towards the 28 just cause I dont really want to fire form, I know its not the end of the world but just one more step. As mentioned above, one of the nice things about the 7RM is factory ammo is plentiful and fairly inexpensive. The Nosler Reloading Guide 9 lists a 175-gr. My vote would be 7RM as well. needed another shot behind the head to kill it. Should be 7.5lbs scoped or so. While testing some upgraded M700 Remington rifles at FTW Ranch last summer, I simultaneously test drove the pre-release 7mm PRC from Hornady. The parent cartridge is a shortened 7mm Remington Ultra Mag. ABLR in the 28 Nosler. Mag. Saw some shiney spots, no bolt lift but did open the pocket a little to the point of a few firings at 3120 fps. Because the 7mm RM is a familiar benchmark, lets establish some basic performance numbers in an 8 pound rifle with 24-inch barrel spitting a representative spire point, boat tail, 175-grain hunting bullet, B.C. I didnt have any problems finding reloading supplies. Nothing to call home about, but its solid for any North American game to 7 or 800 yards based on about any standard metric. Well, i was leaning towards the 28 Nosler, but now I'm seriously considering the 7mm RM. Almost through fire forming but ran some pressure ladders with fully formed brass with 180 Berger hybrids, H1000 looks like I'll be at a good max at 3000 fps and R26 3050 fps and I good life. The Nosler loads were developed in Remington cases with Remington primers, and chronographed in a 24 inch barrel. The most common comparison is 28 Nosler vs 300 Win Mag, because they're both popular in North America and are kissing cousins as far as bullet diameter goes. Mag. Reactions: Zeroit. 7mm PRC vs 28 Nosler The 28 Nosler shoots at faster muzzle velocities, but is an overbore cartridge that requires a very long chamber, with the Hornady hype behind the 7mm PRC, brass and ammo should be much more readily available soon enough. Teddy Roosevelt was so impressed that he used the 757 as a basis for what became the .30-06 Springfield. JavaScript is disabled. Since then weve met eight or ten other 7mms, but none has knocked the old 7 Rem Mag from its perch. Mine is a 26" 1-9 twist non saami 280 ackley. Here are some specifications of interest to those reloading the 7mm SAUM cartridge: bullet diameter .284", maximum COL 2.825", maximum case length 2.035". Adding two inches of barrel to the 24 inches of our 7mm Rem. I would go 7 LRM if it wasn't for the Hornady brass . New member question. I also kicked around the idea of 7max, but can always go that route later. $120.95. I went 7SAUM. Recreational and practical applications abound with these .22 caliber handguns. It is simply the 7mm SAUM case necked down. Im thinking Id run Berger 168 or 180 in SAUM and 140 or 156 in PRC. The 7mm Precision Rifle Cartridge is a long-action centerfire rifle cartridge designed to shoot 180 grain bullets at 2,950 fps. So how do you choose among these three? Factory ammo all over, good brass fron Nosler, ADG, etc. Improving 7mm Rem. Creedmoor Sports $ 120.95 . Of course, this was an overreaction, but at the time millions were convinced the new 7mm was the do-all-end-all of deer/elk/moose and even bear hunting cartridges. Some are claiming as little as 600-round barrel life for RUM, 1,000 rounds for .28 Nosler, 2,000 for Rem. Foot of the Big Belt Mountains near Townsend MT. They explain in part the enduring popularity of the 7mm Rem. Trustpilot. and if you cant draw any tags, youd got a target rifle to tide you over. I'm the same as you. Straight on shot into chest between the legs at about 50 yds. SAUM can be found on the Rifle Cartridge Page. The difference might surprise you. With a 28" I got 2950~2975 with a 195 and 3150 with a 180. . I'm pushing the 175 eldx at 3005 fps, with excellent case life (10+ reloads). ADG 30 Nosler Brass. The 28 Nosler is also loaded to a slightly higher pressure than the 300 Win Mag (65,000psi vs 64,000psi). All the info in that thread made my decision for me. Since this rifle will be used sparingly maybe I can afford to go with something a little harder on the barrel. Indeed, over the years my 7mms have handled this stuff. LRHTB. Mag. rick smith. First, notice that kinetic energy remains above the elk killing minimum of 1,500 ft-lbs at 700 yards. Ballistic twins. There are now at least 14 7mm cartridges being manufactured in the U.S. with several wildcats waiting in the wings. If you want 7mm magnum performance, youll have to change tires (barrels) now and then. 92 grs. haha The good part is it's kinda hard to go wrong these days being there are so many great choices. I'm going 7-300prc because it'll out pace a 7mag by 100-150fps with all bullet weights at much more manage pressures. . $89.95. I'd opt for the 7RM. Abonner p vrt nyhetsbrev og bli den frste som fr vite om kuponger og spesielle kampanjer. I'm worried bout the need of a 26" barrel for the Nosler, and hoping to get away with a 24" since I'm trying to run an Ultra 7 with it. Once you get some freebore to seat the long, heavy bullets out, it really shines. ELD-Match zeroed for MPBR on a 6-inch target zone. 7 saum and 7 rem mag seem like good compromises. The only advantage I'd see with the SAUM is using a short action. Hper du kan nyte shoppingen din her! Hornady brass laser rangefinders one can easily compensate for the 7mm Precision rifle designed! 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